[Bedava] (The Forever War)
Hing to think that this female character bears the name of Haldeman s wifeBut a few things struck me in particularFirst there is
a very clever and knowledgeable use of physics specially the theory of relativity the war very clever and knowledgeable use of physics Heaven to Betsy especially the theory of relativity the war place in such a large setting that travelling from one place to the next at nearly the speed of light produces stunning time distortions In so doing the main character lives and witnesses thevolution of mankind through the centuries This device has later been reused in science fiction for instance in Nolan s 2014 movie InterstellarSecond is that in this vast period of time human So B. It economics language way of life and particularly gender politics and sexualityvolves in unpredictable waysLast and certainly not least when around the middle of the book Mandella comes back to Earth and civilian life after his first campaign away from the Solar System life on Earth feels alien to him than the distant starfields I suspect that this feeling of subjective time distortion is shared by many war veterans when after a time in Vietnam in the Middle East or any other forever war they finally come back
homeThe novel nds with these ironic words The 1143 years long war had begun on false novel nds with these ironic words The 1143 years long war had begun on false and only continued because the two races were unable to communicate It is not at all improbable that this could be said of uite a few wars in history Maybe a generous 25 Just for the overall conceptLet s start with the positive I njoyed following a main character struggling to adapt to the changes on Earth while he s at war 2 years for him nd up being 26 on Earth due to time relativity It only gets worst as the war progresses The rest was a mess for me This book is often mentioned as a classic sci fi and is on so many best sci fi of all time lists To me a classic has to survive the test of time and this book did not age well Like at allI understand that some parts of the book are there to show us that the main character is old fashioned compare to others but oh my was this a frustrating read then unleashed Stargate s ighteen sex starved men on our women compliant and promiscuous by military custom and law but desiring nothing so much as sleepI What I d gotten used to open female homosex in the months since we d left Earth Even stopped resenting the loss of potential partners The men together still gave me a chill thoughOf courseThese are just two uotes out of a dozen other ones I could include The writing style wasn t for me and I didn t care about the characters at all In its defence I m not big on military fiction so the battles bored me but I xpected that I just can never get over how little I care about people dying left and right I m not sure if the nding was supposed to be a twist or a deep moral of the story but it was kinda obvious and pretty much already how things seem to be nowadaysOverall a big Miss For Me Yeaahhhh I M Ready for me Yeaahhhh I m ready some hard science fictionLook I got my glasses on all serious like Catch 22 is often cited as one of the great books about the futility and inherent paradoxes of war I think this is asily its En plein coeur eual but is often overlooked because it is dismissed as just science fictionBy using the tropes of SF Haldeman vividly illustrates not only the psychologicalffects on the combatants but also the desperate disassociation wrought between the soldiers and the rest of society his reference point was the Vietnam veterans but it could apply anywhere and anywhen There are some moments of genuine horror too The Bookshop on the Shore especially when you start to understand what the narrator is telling you A serious contender for my top ten books of all time. ? bir bilimkurgucunun geçmişle geleceği kaynaştıran romanı Joe Haldeman çağımızın geleceğin iyi gören yazarlarından biri David Brin Önemli bilimkurgu yazarları için de bir Knox ailesi olsaydı Haldeman'ı oraya tıkmamız gerekirdi Stephen Kin. ,
First published in 1974 and winner of the 1975 Hugo and Locus awards Forever War by Joe Haldeman kicks assMore than just a book about a futuristic war Haldeman describes a society built around the codependency of the industrial military complex and with a fluid dynamic socio conomic culture that is fascinating to watch
the welfare recipients get a bag of dope with their s protagonist William Mandella is in an lite military group that travels light distances to battles Transportation being what it is less than light speed it takes decades The Art of Memoir even hundreds of years for the troops to reach the fight and meanwhile society changes around him When he reaches thend of his career thousands of years have passed and he does not The Day Christ Was Born: The True Account of the First 24 Hours of Jesus's Life even speak the same language as his fellow citizens and the war he signed up for is ancient historyHaldeman himself a Vietnam War veteran brings anmpathetic perspective to his futuristic warrior portrayalThought provoking and original this is a MUST for science fiction fans 2016 RereadReading this again I think for the third time reaffirmed my love for this book Reading after a couple of decades the first time in HS and then again only a couple years later in college I see of Haldeman s subtle humorI can also see from a 2016 perspective how this could be seen as homophobic An xtremist shock value idea in the 70s could be seen be seen as homophobic An xtremist shock value idea in the 70s could be seen insensitive now but I get what he was doing and in context he was making a statement about nonconformism and parallel changes with his xperience coming back from VietnamHis hard SF ideas like relative time and the stasis field are great but his statements about cultural and sociological changes are what makes this a great bookOne of my all time favorites and Again a MUST read for fans of the genre and a damn fine work of 70s antiestablishment literature I need to read from him 2018 addendum This is such a great book and he s such an amazing writer Some friends and I were talking about some of his other books but I m always drawn back to this one I recall the later passages were he doesn t ven speak the same language as his unit the time has separated them so much but this may also be a metaphor for senior leadership being out of touch Like many great books this works on multiple levels I ll reread this again it s that good In case any movie producers are listening in ten reasons to film The Forever War1 Gratuitous sex and nudity2 Social relevance it s about Vietnam stoopid3 Evil aliens4 General relativity5 Wormholes Interstellar Joe Haldeman was here first6 Freaky high tech zone where you can only fight with swords7 Unexpected twist view spoilerThe vil aliens actually turn out to be good aliens hide spoiler Review to followThis was a book which I had been wanting to read for a long time and then as part of March s Bossy Book Challenge Time Travel for one of the SF groups I belong to Apocalypse Whenever the person I was paired with gave me this novel as one of my choices and so I jumped at itWas it a good SF novel well yes for certain would I class it as Time Travel rm no Yes it had time passing ultra uickly whilst the hero and heroines were travelling just sub light Time Dilation Theory Such that for some of the hero s only 5 years passed during their battles with the nemies The Taurans however as they had travelled countless light years at just sub light speed centuries had passed on EarthTo me this was a military SF novel with the human touch say Starship Troopers with happy bits or David Webber s Honor Harrington Enjoyable and well written with some great characters not truly awe. Er William Mandella kendisine rağmen bir kahramandır istemediği halde seçkin askerlerden oluşan özel bölüğe alınır ve binlerce yıl uzaktaki bir savaşta çarpışmak üzere zaman ve uzayda fırlatılır Asla savaşa gitmek istememişti Yine de görev. Some but good nonetheless Some people liken it given when it was written to an allegorical view of the Vietnam war I can t see that for a number of reasons but mostly because view spoiler it nds happily hide spoiler This book is a military style space opera with Wait Where are you going Get back here I hadn t got to the good part yet Give me a second to The Taste of Night (Signs of the Zodiac, explain GeezOK so yes there is an interstellar war with human troops in high tech ard suits battling an aliennemy on distant planets I know it sounds like another version of Starship Troopers or countless other bad genre sci fi tales that copied it but this one is different Hell when it was published in 1975 it won the Hugo the Locus and the Nebula awards for best novel so you know it s gotta be pretty decentWilliam Mandella has been drafted as one of the first troops that will be sent to fight the Taurans There are points in space called collapsers that are like wormholes that will transport your ship to a distant area i While it reminded me of Heinlein s Starship Troopers and Avatar specially the beginning where recruits are told about all the things that could kill them and how they likely wouldn t make it back alive Haldeman s Forever War takes a different turn Haldeman s book focuses on a soldier fighting an interstellar war Because our character is traveling to his battles at near light speed when he returns to arth between missions decades pass Haldeman speculates about the social changes taking place changes that our character to arth between missions decades pass Haldeman speculates about the social changes taking place changes that our
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character difficulty adaptingdifficulty adapting or fully accepting Despite social changes there is one constant the war continues Haldeman s book still resonates I bought and read this book based upon the many glowing reviews I saw on the internet It s heralded as a classic and one of the best Sci Fi books of all time I have to disagreeI liked the concept Scientifically it was intriguing However the story was repetitive and slow The xact same thing kept happening over and over again Set up base Boring Battle many people die Get back on ship Stay in space for a long time Get bored Return to base Go back out RepeatThere were long long stretches where just nothing happened Also the character development was just non The Road From Home: The Story Of An Armenian Girl existent Thenemy was only described in appearance but never described for what they were In fact Exile and Pilgrim even the battles with the aliens were dull and lifelessThe protagonist is barely developed He is just a hapless soldier who just wants to get laid on a regular basis And for half the book he has his pick of any woman he wants and apparently has sex almostvery night And other than having some difficult command decisions to make we learn virtually nothing about his character I was sorely disappointed by this book and just can t recommend it to anyone Joe Haldeman a Vietnam veteran wrote The Forever War in the seventies and his novel soon became a classic of the so called military science fiction genre in keeping with and way better than Heinlein s Starship Troopers The book tells the story of an intergalactic war with an alien race that spans well over a millennium as seen from Private Mandella It starts with drill instruction and training on a freezing satellite of Pluto xpanding further on until the conflict reaches the Great Magellanic Cloud away from our galaxyAs xpected from a novel such as this one there are some very thrilling and sometimes disheartening combat scenes The minutiae of military life its protocol language and techniues are vividly and often than not ironically described And in the midst of all this there is a forever love story with Private Marygay it is touc. Ini kin tutmadan yerine getirir yaşadığı sürece rütbesi yükselir Döndüğünde Dünya'yı bıraktığı gibi bulamaz Uzay yolculuğundaki zaman genişlemesinden ötürü Mandella aylarla yaşlanırken dünya yüzyıllarla yaşlanır Vietnam'da savaşmı?.